"Special Maps" Evaluation Room

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:49 pm

~S~ Friends of the Veng "Special Maps" Project !

This is our center for all questions and discussions about the "custom maps" (=user made maps).

Here you can post:

- Bugs (floating buildings, jump jets not working etc.)
- Problems with MapPack installers
- Problems with original single map installers
- Evaluation of the graphics and overall playability
- Problems with the game server
- Which are your favorite custom maps

and so on....

Furthermore, suggestions for more new maps are welcome Wink

-Footnote-
These MapPacks have been compiled by Frost {SoE}.
Many map authors put lots of work into these great custom maps. Thanks a lot to all of them!! Now it's our turn to make these maps as popular as they deserve!

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Hi allerseits,
damit ich nicht in 10 verschiedenen Foren posten muss, gibts jetzt hier eine zentrale Plattform f�r alle Fragen die neuen Maps betreffend. Wenn also jemand irgendwelche Probleme mit den Maps bemerkt, bitte hier posten. Genauso aber auch Vorschl�ge f�r weitere Maps, die in den Test aufgenommen werden sollen. Wink

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The "(DD)SoE MapPacks" contain the following maps:

1) Final Version

MW4 Veng MapPack Part 1 (136 MB)
http://filemojo.com/0088159430
http://www.divshare.com/download/1201701-33b

Alien Base
Axis-Rivertown
BioWorld
Camelot
Cool Ville
Cube
Desert Storm
Grand Canyon
Kubrick
Lavarena
Mektropolis
MesaMaze
par_3
Rivervalley
Sentinel Dawn
St-Helens
Tinica
Widow Trial

MW4 Veng MapPack Part 2 (108 MB)
http://filemojo.com/0082556007
http://www.divshare.com/download/1201986-64a

1defend or 2attack
Alcatraz
Battleline
CM-UrbanHell
Crater
Deep Pit
Great Salt Bumps
Hawks Nest
Kingpin`s Palace
Lost City v1
mek-Falconnest
mst-Clantrials
mst-Fort Apache
Solardesert
Thunderdome
ts-Port Dirac
TS-Titan
Warrior Arena
zAvenger Cityz

MW4 Veng MapPack Part 3 (32 MB)
http://filemojo.com/01876232523241
http://www.divshare.com/download/5811740-0da

Cold Dust
DMasks
Lunar Run
Pinnacle
TestingGrounds

Installation: Download all MapPacks. The packs are self-extracting zip archives which will copy all map files to Veng program folders. Please make sure destination folder is correct and adjust it if needed!

The default will fit a typical german MW4 installation:
C:\Programme\Microsoft Games\MechWarrior Vengeance

For a typical US installation you would need to change this to:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\MechWarrior Vengeance

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2) Older beta version of the MapPacks (just for the record)

Pack 0 (80 MB)
Cool Ville
Alien Base
BioWorld
Camelot
Cube
Desolate
Grand Canyon
Mektropolis
par_3
Squaregarden
St-Helens
Tinica
Widow Trial

Pack 1 (53 MB)
4 Forts
Battleline
Deep Pit
Lost City v1
mst-Fort Apache
ts-Port Dirac
Vegas

Pack 2 (18 MB)
mst-Clantrials
npa-Beartrap
zAvenger Cityz

Pack 3 (20 MB)
Crater
Hawks Nest
mek-Falconnest
Solardesert

Pack 4 (9 MB)
Insane
Kingpin`s Palace
Thunderdome
Warrens - v1
Warrior Arena

Pack 5 (79 MB)
Axis-Rivertown
Desert Storm
Insurrection Island
Kubrick
Lavarena
MesaMaze
Rivervalley
Sentinel Dawn

Pack 6 (36 MB)
1defend or 2attack
Alcatraz
CM-UrbanHell
Great Salt Bumps
TS-Titan

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:10 am

~S~ SoE,

Many of our members have already downloaded & "installed" these paks.

I'll make sure that the admins of: TW<TimberWolves>, OTC<OldTimersClan> & CLS<ClanLynxSpain> get to know about this project.

Our (Weekend) servers "CT ISLAND RANGE" and "CT SERVEUR" will surely have these maps in the 'cycle list'. Wink

Hailz,
blade

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:42 am

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:15 am

Known Bugs of Custom Maps

Preliminary note
We tested all maps before adding them to the MapPacks. Nevertheless, no one can guarantee that these maps are completely without any bugs. Some of them have some minor bugs indeed, but despite of this we think they are worth being played.

1) Common bugs affecting several maps

Jump jets
Several custom maps have minor bugs concerning buildings and jump jets. Depending on the choosen Mech chassis jumps jets sometimes don't work as usual on certain map areas.

Building bugs
Furthermore, there are some building bugs at some maps, but this a thing also well-known from many of the official standard maps. For instance, sometimes you can jump from the bottom up through solid ceilings/floors (examples: ThunderDome, INSANE, HawksNest). � �

Bots
Last no least, not all of these custom maps are "bot friendly". In some maps they are completely useless, getting stuck at spawn and doing absolutely nothing (INSANE for example, so this map runs without bots on our server). �

2) Known bugs of single maps

- Beartrap � �
Bots are rather useless and will mainly stay at spawn

- Desolate
Map boundaries seem to be incorrect at some of the spawns. Choosing team 1 and team 2, spawn will be outside of map bounderies sometimes. Then bots or players will get stuck outside the map and you have to suizide for respawn. Choosing teams 3 and 5 seems to work better.

- HawksNest �
=> see above! �Some ramps won't work properly.

- INSANE � � �
=> see above! �No attrition or destruction available, only teams

- MekTropolis
Mechs easily get stuck at the corners of the ramps

- ThunderDome
There are no ramps to climb to the upper floor, you have to jump throug the floors from the bottom up (=> see above)

- Vegas
It's a very hot desert map but, strange to say there is a big river across this map. Walking into this river will NOT give the usual cooling effect in "heat on" games. Water must be boiling hot there Wink

Squaregarden
There are severe bugs near the ammunition dumps, which may cause the game crash to desktop. Firing weapons in this direction or jumping on these buildings seems to be critical. Obviously the effect depends on mech chassis. With an Osiris for example there are no problems at all, but using other chassis like Shadowcat and Thor may give that bug.

Action to take: Squaregarden will be removed from server "Special Maps" instantly. Additionally, next release of MapPack 0 will be without this map.
@Server admins: Plz remove Squaregarden from your server cycle list!

Thx (CT) CHARLEMAGNE for reporting this bug! Sry for any inconveniences this may have caused.

- Insurrection Island
The drop ship in one of the drop zones bounces rhythmically. Looks rather funny, but seems to have no further impact on map functionality.

Exclamation

Tinica
Shooting the ammunition dumps ("Waffenlager") may crash the game. Thx Jackalope from WPPC for reporting!
http://wppc.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=vengeance&action=display&num=1174478167
We rather often played tinica map and no one at =SoE= got this game ending bug till now. So it seems not to be such big problem.
In general, looks like all these maps with "ammunition dumps" suffer from this bug (Squaregarden, Bioethernal_Winter, and now Tinica).

...to be continued

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:40 pm

aha da finden sich schon die ersten ein Rolling Eyes

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:35 pm

Hallo Frosty
habe dir mal `ne mail mit dem Mapinstaller geschickt.
der macht einen guten eindruck. die packs sind nicht viel
gr�sser . ich lass dir mal noch irgendwie das modifizierte
vol4 zum angucken zukommen. � Mr. Green

ps: ich hab hier nur reingespamt falls du
� � �auch so ein e-mail lesemuffel wie ich bist

pps:hab jetzt auch ein media center Shocked

--->http://service.gmx.net/mc/H77GdxjdYhAUiCcuFEY2i0Hg9iCsDD
(bis 21.04.07)

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:45 pm

hey frost! its me sinny! nice maps man u bet u see me using them!!
create some more hey if veng had mission play u be number1 in making it hit me up if u need some ideas!

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:36 am

~S~ Sinqu! Thanks for stopping by!

Yes there are also some maps with mission play for Veng. For example "Arctic Assault", "Desertwar" or "Mek LunarRun". Didn't check them in multiplayer as yet, but might be a good idea.

thx for input!
cu, Frost

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:54 am

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:31 am

Hello & ~S~ SOE ,
Firstly , Thank You for the Invitation to Participate in what I See as a Very Professionally
Implimented Plan to Improve This Old Game , That We Shall All Enjoy Even More , If We have
some New Maps to Master .

Been Trying to get Time to drop In & Say Hello as Soon as Blade gave Us the Good News about
You're Project , Just got Held Up with the Boring Aspects of Life , LOL .

Anyhow , Just wanted to say , You Can count on MM's Full Backing & Support in You're Venture ,
I'll be getting back to You Soon .

Oh , Could Someone Post on the PH Forum @ http://packhunters.com/forum/

Claymore ~S~ .

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:16 pm

~S~ Claymore,
Thx for stopping by and giving such encouraging feedback + support!
Btw, it's a great map collection on your web site (at download section). As a part of my search, I also checked this map package for additional good Veng maps, that we didn't know yet. Some of the maps from MapPack 5 are derived from there (very helpful suggestions indeed!).

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:40 pm

Mit dem dritten SoE Map Pack ist das "Special Maps Projekt" f�r MW4 Vengeance aus meiner Sicht erstmal abgeschlossen. �hnlich wie bei Mercs mit den MWL Map Packs oder den NBT CDs gibt es damit auch f�r Venge eine einfache Methode zur Installation der Custom Maps.

Das wichtigste ist aber nat�rlich: die Maps werden jetzt regelm��ig gespielt, z. Zt. Freitag und Sonntag Abend auf dem {SoE}FrostFight Server !

Falls noch irgendwelche Bugs oder sonstige Ungereimtheiten bei den Maps auftauchen sollten, bitte mir mitteilen oder hier posten (bisher bekannte Bugs s.o. hier im Topic unter dem Post "Known Bugs of Custom Maps").

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:38 am

Ich werd das Pack dann auch hier zum Download auflegen Wink

Kann aber zZt. etwas dauern .